Wednesday, March 15, 2006

OUTING HETEROSEXUALITY

Here’s the thing. Lately, I’ve been writing predictable things about predictable events and I am on the verge of sending myself to sleep. It isn’t that the things I have been writing about are not important, it is merely that I was almost on the edge of persuading myself that the political scene, which needs a united citizen front, was more important than other less obviously political issues--although political they certainly are.

The shame!

I of all people should know better. The civil rights movement in the U.S. told women to stop talking about gender issues because first the fight against racism had to be won. The feminist movement frowned at women of colour raising their issues, insisting that first the fight against the patriarchy had to be won. The nationalist movements in Africa insisted that feminism was a corrupt and decadent western import, and that first we had to capture our earthly kingdoms, and achieve our panAfricanist Nirvana, before we started looking at “side issues.” And those of us who are interested in our contemporary political dynamics have fallen into the same pit of not tackling the prickly, the uncomfortable questions now: we are waiting to win the larger battle before we clean our house. There is always another battle or another issue, and the matters that matter to the foot soldiers are postponed for yet another day. Yet, these issues ARE the battle. We fight for freedom --and do not imagine we are doing anything less--because it is the freedom to live our lives the way we want, from the jobs we choose to the people we fall in love with. If we cannot tackle them, then we are not equipped to tackle anything. What are the lines of difference we draw? For what do we engage, argue, participate and in some heroes' cases, take awful risks? For what?

Thus, I am not going to wait until we’ve sorted out our ideas of citizenship and its prerogatives, rights and obligations; the limits of government and the appropriate restrictions on its officials; the freedom of the press and our strategies to safeguard both that and the right to speak. I have been meaning to speak to the supposedly unanimous and united front that we present to the mere whisper of an idea of a suggestion of a sexuality(ies) that does not follow the missionary position sex-is-for-the-purpose-of-reproduction-only-and-any-other-type of-sexual-activity-will-send-you-into-the-inferno heterosexuality. Did you get that? Homosexual, bisexual transsexual, gay, queer, lesbian, transgender, cross-dresser and so on and as Judith Butler says, on and on have, exactly the same standing (I think there's a horribly dirty pun in there somewhere) as heterosexuality does. There are lots of ways, of being and of expressing our sexualities. There are no contracts that have to be signed so that you can only be one type your whole life. None of them is better than others. None of them is more moral than others. None of them should be subject to state intervention or restriction because one of the very few things history has worked hard to let us possess is our own bodies. What you do when you get nekked and necking is just your business: you own your materiality, your embodification, your body. I can feel the collective shudder from here. Chill out! What is the problem? No one is making you do anything you don’t want to.

Here’s what I think: if the parties to the sexual interlude are adult, intend harm neither to each other nor to themselves (at least, not unanticipated or non-consensual harm) or to other parties, how could it possibly be our business what it is they do in the stronghold of their private space? Don’t bother thinking: the answer is NONE.

I’ve wondered why it is that a)men are not nearly as freaked out at the idea of women on women encounters b) men are practically frothing at the mouth at the idea of a gay man coming near them or anywhere near them and are often driven to violence against people they suspect of embodying this crucial difference in sexuality c)women who don’t particularly approve of homosexuality aren’t that worked up about it? So why?

a and c are going to have to wait for sharper minds than mine, but b) I think is caused by the idea that every gay man will suddenly be helplessly attracted to our homophobic straight guy, and, unable to resist himself or his urges, will jump him as soon as they meet. This is tantamount to being against heterosexual sex because it promotes man-on-woman rape and violence. The futility and fatuousness of this nonsense! The other thing, and I do so love being able to write this, is that straight men have a small corner of their minds (heavily repressed) which wonders whether a homoerotic event and perhaps even a homosexual one may, after all--sotto voce!-- be a rather interesting episode in their life of desire. I have in mind the unspoken and unheard echoes of single-sex boarding schools. C’mon, pretending the pink elephant in the middle of the sitting room isn’t there isn’t actually going to make it go away. Don’t worry; I myself went to a woman’s college in a town that has earned the reputation of being the lesbian capital of the world. I am quite capable of looking women over once, twice and even thrice, but then, women are always checking each other out. I would not have exchanged this experience, and its lessons, for the world.

Honestly (and I must admit that I borrow /steal this from the comedian Bobcat) I think much of straight male violence against gay men is an inversion of the part of themselves that they are trying to destroy. The part that says, oh you gorgeous man, you are so attractive to me that I am going to have to beat you to a pulp to stop myself from ahem, jumping your bones because I am a PERFECTLY NORMAL MAN and do not, ever, find other men attractive.

Here's the hook, somewhat late: Do you think Mugabe didn’t know about Canaan Banana? So what do we make of his pronouncements on this issue?? If you do not understand this reference, do your homework. The results will enlighten and intrigue. This issue speaks to others of Mugabe's pronouncements, but as Mental once remarked, I am not about to go into the pro- anti- useless and endless dichotomy. I just wanted this thought-factoid out there.

Your sisters, your brothers, your friends, your colleagues, your cousins, your nephews,your nieces, even your parents, are trapped in a prison more violent and restrictive than any physical restraint. They are not heterosexual, or they are not only heterosexual and for this you have made them pay a price that should not be required. They are trapped in the swamp of public opinion which threatens to take away their person-hood should they admit, for a moment, that perhaps their desires are different from yours. Will you sacrifice them to bigotry and prejudice.? Whence then, your moral authority?

73 comments:

Girl next door said...

I applaud for bringing up this very important and sensitive issue. As you said, it's the pink elephant in the room that nobody wants to talk about. It is so easy to be judgemental when you think all homosexuals/bisexuals/transgender people are strangers but when you can put a face to it--you realize they're humans like anybody else. As you said, they are our relatives, friends, and neighbors. Sexuality is a big part of our identity and consenting adults have a right to express themselves as long as it does not endanger anyone else. It's sad that many people 'in the closet' are criminalized instantly when the public finds out what they do. I bet Mugabe knew about Canaan Banana--it's just one of those issues that people try to hide but one day it blows up in the open.

Kenyananalyst said...

Interesting post; you are a fine writer. I believe firmly in the dignity of each human being. I also acknowledge the depravity that has, down the ages, informed the human condition on everything, including the touchy issue of sexuality and human rights. I'm a devout Christian; I don't agree with homosexuality, but those who practise it still have my unconditional love and respect. I'm aware that Church history is riddled with tales of men and women who were anything but Christ-like in the manner that they applied themselves to the questions you have raised. Yet for me, the Scriptures remain the supreme authority on matters of personal conduct and life.

Ms K said...

Ti hi hi I think there's something going round KBW this week.

Very interesting post. I for one must say I am a bit ambivalent about the whole gay thing. I'm not homophobic. Infact, I find myself quite intrigued by gay men and have always wanted to have one as a friend so that I could "understand them better" (so I tell myself but I fear it is something else).

But somewhere inside me is a conservative who still holds on to those beliefs that its wrong.

Like I said, I am not homophobic. I believe in everyone's right to choose whichever lifestyle suits them. But there's still that nagging.....

Oh and since you brought it up, I do check out women. Sometimes I even think, hmm I'd like a romp with her. But I don't know if I'll ever do that. But I do entertain the thoughts.

That's it. TMI barrier breached.

Frank León Roberts said...

Thank you so much for your warm comments on my blog! My blog went crazy this
morning, and unfortunately i had to delete the entire post and re-post
it. In the process of this, I lost your comment.

Would you mind re-posting it my blog? I saved it below. Thanks alot!
Frank

Hello! Congratulations on your publication. I wanted to touch upon some of the politics of identity/identification. Obviously there is work that we straight people ought to be doing amongst other straight people, instead of leaving our muddy footprints all over your floors and your plans. On the other hand, there must be some point of intersection where we know that we haven't become ventriloquists, haven't stolen important voices or even worse, imagined that we were those voices, and that, I'm afraid, can only come from the owners--or those who wish to claim--these voices. It is a question born of some activisism, some scholarship, but mostly just a lot of listening and listening and listening. The trick is to make well-wishers into well-doers, and that's certainly not something they can handle on their own. On the other hand, knowing very well "it isn't my job to educate you etc."....well, then what?
I am invested in this, clueless though I might seem.

Kenyananalyst said...

WM, just gotten yours....you border on the "unconventional"...:-)...but I doubt you've lost it in the way of manners. Had that been the case, you bet I wouldn't have bothered to share my 8 cents worth of what I posted here earlier on. I did some time at an American college, so I resonate with much of what you've had to say in your post. And yes, I'll write on for as long as you keep updating your blog:-)!

Kenyananalyst said...
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WM said...

Oh, thank god! for comment deleted. I'm sorry folks...I published something I should not have and now it has been taken away, and I don't think too many people saw it. Fast work, J.

J said...

Thx 4 alerting me promptly...will keep posting here as and when I have the time.

Anonymous said...

Mhhh WM interesting!

I believe that sexuality and sexual freedoms will be the final frontier of civil/political rights only because it is fraught with such deeply imbedded cultural/religious taboos compounded by the unhappy confluence between sex and procreation/marriage/religion. But the walls are already comin down. Even th South African constitutional court has declared gay marriages legal! (But did you notice how little comment there was on that from Africans?)

On your a, b, c, questions, I should confess that I am a (happily) married heterosexual African male. With that out of the way, I should also mention that I entertain bisexual forays and have sampled men and women (together and separately). have led to the following unscientific findings: on (a), men generally find "girl-on-girl" action less repulsive becasue theya re turned on by the whole visual. On (b) and (c) my sense has been that, while women are generally used to bieng legitimately penetrated (by their ob/gyns, their significant others and by themselves), men find the idea of being penetrated as a reversion of their malehood...a real male should never be penetrated!! They do not know what they are missing but I will not get into that because I may be asked to explain!

Good job, WM; you write well.

WM said...

Thank you to all those brave enough to have responded, especially the anon. above. Thanks for sharing.

WM said...

I'm so sorry it is only me, and the message I have is so short.

Pole sana

I only wanted to say that the person hereto known is "J" has risked much and venutured much, and perhaps should be the object of our prayers. He also has really, done much nad said much, truly, I promise

The Rant said...

Very interesting issue of stereotyping and labeling. One has to ask, whats the origin of this influence, if not our nurturing and environment. Why not take your argument further and say humans are regressing into animals, where incest and other immoralities cannot be distinguished. Moreover, is it possible for animals to act, through anomaly in their genes, gayish et al. if not through certain set conditions in their environment.

Joseph Walking said...
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Anonymous said...

Helloooo Mad One.

I just found your blog and it is a pleasure to read.

First of all, give us a general comment section on your site. As you see this has nothing to do with the article under which it is posted.

I just love your arrogant beating around the topic articles. I say that with admiration and for anyone who criticizes you for not doing whatever they think it is you should be doing, I say create your own damn blog and fill in the gaps yourself.

It is amazing what the blog has done for the African, if only we can get the internet in every home.

This is an opportunity to have Africa jump decades into the future in one gigantic and short leap.

Now for my criticism if I may.

Where are the solutions? We all know Africa’s problems, from the Mzee - baba wa taifa paradigm, and lack of regard for the general citizen (employer).

But where are the solutions, where is the push to dig wells in those regions where we are expecting starvation, to subsidize the farmers that feed these mouths, to put tarmac on the roads and better dirt roads in the villages so we can get supplies there?


I'll leave this here for now, but I'll be back.

-silaha said...

MKW...

...you figured it out! I just read your comment (and deleted it - sorry trying to maintain some anonymity).

-silaha

Shiroh said...

I am very apprehensive when it comes to social issues.

I do not think homosexuality is right but i am not homophobic.This has come about because i respect people's way of life as their own.

sokari said...

Excellent piece as always. The usual set of predictable responses such as "equating the civil rights movement to the fight for gay rights is the biggest injustice that anybody can do to the civil rights movement." You just dont want to get it. Repeat it is not about equating it is about being part of - rights are either all inclusive or they are not rights!
WM - cross posted your piece.

sokari said...

On your a)b) c) above - One answer to a) is that men get off on the idea of two women having sex - its one of their sexual fantasies BUT only when it is something that they can control and does not in any way impact on their positions of power. So lesbians a big NO, two women having sex, OK as long as I can jump in when its over. There is a subtle difference here which is to do with "lesbian as a political or feminist statement" and two women in a porno movie.

Double WM said...

Weee Joe, wacha zako!

That's complete BS that equating the civil rights movement to the gay rights movement is denigration. Kwani you think there were no gay people active in the civil rights movement? Then who the hell was Bayard Rustin? Gay, leftist, and yes the revered MLK knew about it and didn't care.

So are gay people of colour supposed to shut up about discrimination on the basis of sexuality because discrimination on the basis of colour is worse?

And that business about hating the sin not the sinner is delusional. Acts do not happen of themselves, in the human realm, acts are performed by actors upon other actors. So that means hating the sin necessarily entails hating those that cause that action to be. Why beat around the bush?

Double W, much love and respect. Mwah!

guessaurus said...

WM sorry to get here late but I admire how you have written about this - I couldn't word it better (literally, we know).

When I moved over to the UK I hadnt met a gay person, I knew they existed but like aliens, you just ignore that cos it doesnt concern you until you meet it f2f. Which means that I didnt have an opinion homophobic or otherwise, but when i did meet one they were a human being, what they did behind closed doors has nothing to do with anything.

I find though that men, especially of African descent, have a huge problem down that road - and I get all hot and bothered when someone bashes the bible in my face on the issue. I am sorry, but spiritual and all that I am, I find it unsettling that most people will hide behind the scriptures to walk around hating on other people, not knowing that hating itself is against them scriptures they are still quoting.

So where does that leave me?

I dont give a toss whichever way you swing, I dont particularly care - but I get a bit unruffled when guys go all 'it isnt normal' when they see to guys kissing, but are all turned on when two women do the same - and yes, women could be bothered either way. Hypocrisy I would think.

And I so agree with you that men are threatened with gay men because at some point in their lives they might have wanted to find out how this goes, but they wouldnt want to admit to it.

I will leave that where it is now, but I bet for every homophobic person, there is the same that are curious enough but ashamed to find out - gender nothwithstanding

Binyavanga said...

May I swing wildly? Nice post. There is something in the hidden contracts of manliness - whoever imposed them that guarantees that you need never question whether you will 'be penetrated'- and 'penetration' is associated with victory or submission, spears, arrows. The fear that 'we could like it' is certainly true, but the violence is motivated by fear. Straight men fear gay men because they believe that to submit and be 'speared' is losing your manhood.

Hmmmm...I hope this doesn't sound like some sort of justification: all this straight theory is still based on strange superstitions and ignorance, and I don't think there is much of an excuse for anybody to identify themselves on such a simplistic premise....

Guessaurus said...

I left a long comment here yesterday but it has disappeared. i will have to redo it again tomorrow.I am not amused:(

OUTINKENYA said...

OUTINKENYA applauds you on your recent posting on sexuality. It is refreshing to read and to know that you are active in promoting freedoms for all. OUTINKENYA is a community of Lesbian, Bisexual and Transgendered in and from Kenya. OUTINKENYA is acive in promoting freedoms for all women and women with alternative lifestyles as being equal and deserving their freedom to express themselves in whatever way they want. OUTINKENYA salutes you.

done said...

i agree with Kenyananalyst above.Our age of relativism and individualism is being proclaimed as the fruit of progress..
What is right and what is wrong...does it depend on the individual or the society....so when soceital values change, should the individual change to match them?...are we risking living lives of comformity?...Living lies?....will our children approve murder as justified?...will in 10-20 years time be having sexual orgies if not in kiosks...out on African streets?...

These are important questions in my view.
I put it to you, wm, that the core issue is not whether homosexuality is right/should-be-allowed or not.

It is what is a value and who or what is the guardian of our values?

acolyte said...

I think straight men dislike gay men due to the overt hypersexual nature of most gays.It has nothing to do with the insinuation that straight men are running from the fag within.Also add on the spectre of gay rape that many men fear which ties in to the utter humiliation that it brings.Of course I doubt many gay men plan on raping straight men but that is how the human mind works.Anyway I think that people are more gay disapproving then homophobic as many people dont fear gays as opposed to frown on their lifestyle which goes against the accepted norm in Africa.Most ppl know that these things go on but as long as they stay in the closet for them it's all good, but as you said ignoring the elephant in the room wont make it go away so let's see how matters shape up.

WM said...

I want to apologise to all of you (and especially you, Guess) for the length of time it has taken for your comments to appear. I've had one of those 100-hour days and have just now come up for a breather. The reason that your comments do not automatically appear is that as a result of the adventures of the odious anon., I have had to employ comment moderation. I'm not censoring anyone, just this particular person, whose right to appear on my blog has been revoked. Keep talking--it's a good dialogue and one which we should have had a long time ago. As for thanking me--absolutely unnecessary. Being straight and being silent on these issues do not follow as the night the day.

KenyanMusings said...

It is I, coming at a horribly ashaming position....

Truer words have never been spoken. "I think much of straight male violence against gay men is an inversion of the part of themselves that they are trying to destroy."....SPOT ON! And I have had that argument with my male friends, straight and gay.

I think it is true, that men are afraid. Afraid of the remote possibilities.

And another thing that infuriates me about how some men react to gay guys is the simple fact that, all attraction is very selective. Just like i will not be attracted to every thing that walks and is male, it is the same with gay people. NOT EVERY GAY MAN WANTS TO SLEEP WITH ANY MAN. Some of those that make the loudest noise would be actually surprised to know (thankfully maybe), that they are never going to make a gay man look twice at them.

That said. I am not homophobic. I have never been. Some of my most wonderful friends are gay, I have once or twice harbored lesbian fantasies that remain right there in my head, I am straight. No apologies.

And yes, at Anon, it was really odd how nothing much was said about SA legalising gay marriages.

My general feeling about this, I think everyone should know personally a gay person, and see how really inconsequential it is whoever is banging who where.

That is very secondary. We have world peace to worry about....let everyone do their thing, keep safe and please, let's all get along!!!

And you my dear, how are you? How have you been?

Anonymous said...

I think you’re over complicating the issues and while you speak of all manner of ism you take on a very female take on the issue by projecting your sexist attitudes towards the issue. So let me tell you what most men really believe, a) gay man are dudes who took freaky behavior to far, get too freaky and you end up in gay land. b) Sex is about power, every time you bone a women you exert some power over her, I think this is conscious though. For another man to “spear you” they have exerted their power over you.

guessaurus said...

WM, you need not apologise, I realised comment moderation was on when I left that second message - as my teacher in primary school told me (which is true anyway) I do not always pay attention to the finer details..

Sijui said...

Why I am sympathetic to African homophobia:

Kenyans, Africans, black people in general are socially conservative, and in the case of Kenyans/Africans are patrician and parochial. I proffer that this is because of a necessary survival instinct....remember African societies/communities relied on lineage and reproduction for survival. Literally. Perhaps circumstances are not so dire now however our social construct places no utility in sexual gratification/satisfaction just for its sake (rightly or wrongly) hence the opportunities for homosexuality to be accepted based on rational and moderate analysis are almost NIL. Am I terribly concerned by this? Surprisingly no. I don't consider homosexuality to be immoral or abnormal, I view it in some circumstances as a legitimate genetic pre-disposition, and in majority of circumstances a deliberate life style choice. Hence while I do not support the criminalization of homosexuality which is very prevalent throughout Africa, I DO SUPPORT the cultural stigma attached to it. I think a good balance is enshrining gay rights in the law so that legal redress against any crime is assured, HOWEVER the SOCIAL AVERSION for that lifestyle should be respected and accepted. The beef I have against many gay individuals is their propensity to try to force you to accept their lifestyle as mainstream and unquestionable, yet they obviously reject the notion that heterosexuality is 'normal' and pre-eminent. As long as noone infringes on the rights of the other, both sides should accept the other's position on the matter.

universally speaking said...

First off, lovely post.

I believe that the one of the reasons why very many men will come across as homophobic when placed next to an openly gay man is a fear of the unknown. Thinking of the circumstances we Kenyans have grown up in (a government led by a president who slapped the "aberrant and illegal sexual behaviour" label on homosexual activity, our endless stream of churches which have been very outspoken on how gay men have their little compartments lined with the finest incendiary substances already laid out with compliments from the Devil himself, as well as the absence of openly gay men in Kenyan society today), men in our society will be forgiven for thinking that gay men are a race of extraterrestrial aliens given the wild tales that have emerged out of this absence of accurate information on what the real deal is about gay people/culture. So, when a gay man suddenly shows up on the scene, people recoil when they recall all those horror stories they heard about most gay men being rapists, paedophiles, excessively effeminate and a host of other unlovely things. We are only human, and our insticts point us to the sign that reads 'Survival'. Result? Hostility galore towards this new 'threat', hence homophobic actions/reactions.

I currently live with 2 gay men. We share rooms and all. They haven't tried to rape me yet. They haven't tried to pick me up using more conventional means, either. They haven't been having crazed sex just by virtue of their being gay and their living in the same digs. Overall, they're pretty decent guys, and we all get along very well. I found out they were gay after about 3 months of living with them (you see, I'm the kind of guy who'll sleep through nuclear holocaust and wake up 3 days later only to be mildly bothered by the kilometre-deep crater next to my house [must be the pesky neighbours again]). However, I can't start to tell you what kinds of uncertainty I would have gone through if I had known that my roomies to be were, you know, 'like that', given the amount of disinformation I had accumulated simply from growing up in Kenyan society, which is predisposed to encourage homophobia.

Joseph Walking said...

"equating the civil rights movement to the fight for gay rights is the biggest injustice that anybody can do to the civil rights movement." Yes i said it and though i deleted my complete comments someone shamefully cut and paste only this part of my comment.

MW.I would love to fight over this but i think my comments on my blog(captain of the ship post)will do for now

Anonymous said...

I don't see any reason why anyone should be judged becoz of the their sexual inclinations. Deep down we all habor some fantasies that to others may sound grotesque and as the saying goes one mans meat is another mans posion.

Overall whatever your sexual preferences whats important is you are performing in whatever task you have been assigned in building our country Kenya.

I was in an all girls school and one time I was approached by a gal who thought I tickled her fancy. I was outraged and embarrassed that she chose me. But later in lfe I got myself into an affair with one of my galfriends which really blossomed till she left town and I got married.

So what I am trying to say is that we all have an inner craving that we want to explore but the fear of being judged as a different scares the living hell out of us.

AfroFeminista said...

Rather late to be adding this . . .You said it well! A starting point to treating homosexual men and women as equals in whichever movement activists are operating in,lies in the notion of indivisibility of the right of every human being to legal protection from discrimination and the ability to live a life of freedom. In an environment that guarantees every man and woman regardless of sexual orientation those rights, is one that cannot tolerate discrimination in cultural attitudes, social norms and other forms of organizing in a society.

As to those who say they are not homophobic but still say they don't think it's natural, ordained by God etc. etc. You are homophobic! You can't be a little homophobic! You are homophobic by virtue of identifying heterosexuality as 'normal' and anything else as 'abnormal'.

Personally, i don't see what business it is of anyone or any Government, whether i have a sexual preference for men or women or both. Their business should be in ensuring that my rights either as a lover of men, women or both is protected, should a situation arise requiring this protection arise!

Anonymous said...

God made Adam and Eve. Not Adam and Steve.
Well, I know all gaps are interesting— but don't have designs on the charming gap in my upper teeth and claim God made you that way!Or maybe you can't, because I can bite.

Anonymous said...

Don't worry! Next century the human race will have evolved enough for the nose to have a sexual appeal. And what shall we call those nasal lovers? Boogersexuals, right?

Keguro said...

Adam and Eve were also white, lived in the suburbs with their dog Spot, and their perfect children Dick and Jane, who were lovingly catered for by mammy black woman who lived with her cute little pickaninies in the house over yonder.

And the world was perfect. As it was so it should be. Selah.

Anyone who believes religion or traditional belief should be the basis for legislation in a nation of diverse people misunderstands the nature of the modern secular State. If, however, one wants to live in a theocracy or traditional kingdom governed by eternal atemporality, go right ahead. Don't hide behind "shared beliefs" or "tradition" or "religion" or "values."

And don't mistake "shared values" for "freedom."

Anonymous said...

Recommended:

Ruth Morgan and Saskia Wieringa:

Tommy boys, lesbian men and ancestral wives : Female same-sex practices in Africa
2005 Johannesburg : Jacana, 335 p.

Part 2 said...

The blogger "Sijui" expresses my sentiments exactly. No need for me to restate them.

It's high time this issue came up for debate. Thanks for initiating it MKW.

mudskippah said...

What was wrong with my post? It was not a rant, just an alternative view...

magaidi said...

First of all, great great piece WM!
This, in addition to other pieces I've read should be nominated for 'post of the year' :)

In large part, I am indifferent on issues of homosexuality, state-religion, values etc just because I believe to each man/woman his own. What other people do in the confines of their bedrooms or religious spaces is of no concern to me. In addition what they do there does not make them less deserving or more deserving of anything worth having - or the basic necessities to a comfortable life . I actually agree with Keguro's point - Don't mistake "shared values" for "freedom". The most basic lesson we can learn from such issues as slavery or even colonization is this.

Joseph Walking said...

being a frequent visitor on your blog and since i am tired of the disappointment of comming to your blog and reading the same post could we please put this post to rest mad woman , i think we need to move on.those who support gay rights will continue to do so while those of us who feel nothing for gay rights wont change . those who a clearly not courageous to make a stand will swing one way today on the blog to look progressive but another way in real life when confronted by reality. so Mad Woman please give us a new post or you will soon alienate those of us who are clearly and unashamedly homophobic.

WM said...

Hi everyone!
It has been a wild ride, hasn't it? I haven't "moved on" because I haven't yet responded to the comments, which I feel obligated to do. In any case, I really can't move on from a topic merely because it is controversial, or uncomfortable. The point of debate and of intellectual dialogue is the capacity to confront the disagreements as well as the points of convergence. Added to which, frankly, I just haven't had the time to think brilliant thoughts of any type, shape or form that I would wish to inflict upon you. Joe, c'mon: is there a statute of limitations on blogs? If you respect me enough to keep coming back, despite our disagreements, then you'll do me the courtesy of understanding that I really cannot write on schedule (mine or anyone else's). That said, this is an important topic and close to my heart. Persecution in whatever form disturbs me deeply.

Joseph Walking said...

Wee wacha I do not mean to be funny but there is no intellectual dialogue going on here this is simply a gay parade. Rainbow flag flying high and all. but I do agree there is no statute of limitations on a post ,as for persecution am a little lost at what you are on about .I have never heard of people being persecuted for being gay in Kenya. The problem with gay people is that they want to force their acts and views on others, putting all their business in our faces. Do you see fornicators in Kenya calling for rights and forming associations? lol no now if we are going to have an intellectual conversation lets have one on what makes someone gay a psychological outlook or a practical medical practitioners view point lets stop lying that this in anyway constitutes an intellectual dialogue

Keguro said...

Joe is right.

This discussion is not intellectual. It rarely is. I have asked, on my blog and in other debates, for valid objections to gay-affirmative or, at the very least, sexuality-protected legislation. At each point, I have offered a counter-argument, when available, while trying to exercise reason.

At the root of most objections seems to be a widely held idea that homosexuality is both a sign that society has degenerated and a motor that will cause society to degenerate. To such arguments I can say nothing reasonable.

It seems to me most people seem to think that African homosexuals will "ape" the West. I am not convinced by this idea. I think we will see--and have seen elsewhere in the world--rites and rituals that try to meld old and new, traditional and modern, much like modern marriage ceremonies blend old and new.

Increasingly, I no longer get angry. Instead, I am saddened that there's no place for me in a Kenya I'd love to build.

I'm not arrogant enough to assume there aren't many thousands of people smarter, more ambitious, and better equipped to build the nation. They exist. And they will do so without me.

Anonymous said...

Ohhhh, I will be so distressed if the blog manages to "alienate those of us who are clearly and unashamedly homophobic" (joe). You know, that would be ALMOST as bad as to alienate those of us who are clearly and unashamedly racist.

So, what could WM do to re-comfort the gaybashers, klansmen, interahamwe tribalists, child abusers and all the other disenchanted readers? Do you have any helpful proposal?

Attentively yours,
Anon

Zing said...

I think am an idealist at heart and would love a world filled with smiling happy people running through the daisies and singing Kumbaya. I reckon there's space for everyone out there and little room for segragation of any sort. I therefore choose to look at achievement, potential and values rather than color and sexual orientation.

I first came across the openly gay community while studying in the US and was rather suprised to find that they were not the two-headed blood-dripping creatures that everyone made them out to be back home in Kenya. Your post elegantly lays out a framework through which to think through such matters - kudos!!!

Small request - Would you some time in the future, kindly explore some of the solutions to bringing Kenya out of the backwater that it is currently?

Joseph Walking said...

Attentively Anonymous,
I usually don’t address people with no names, but since you chose to address tribalist and the interahamwe I have to respond. Before you continue taking liberties spewing and spiting names, categorizing people with child abusers could you kindly define what constitutes gay bashing?

You see ever so often a certain segment of the gay community and their supporters run to call people who don’t agree with their lifestyle gay bashers. Making it look like people who don’t agree with their ideals spend time plotting and planning on how to physically harm them. Running to call people gay bashers has become the easy way out. So let me clarify something since you are waiting attentively, disagreeing with your sexual preference does not mean that I want to harm you. Disagreeing with your lifestyles does not also; mean that I don’t value you as a person. Infact for example for a long time now I have enjoyed having discussions with keguro on rugby and other topics even though he is gay. When I can, I post comments on his blog and interact with other bloggers who might be gay on healthy discussions that are not related to sexuality.

Now like I said before as the conservative African that I am and being a Christian I am not comfortable discussing sexual matters all wily nilly be they straight or not. Hence my call for a more intellectual approach to the issue which is not based on emotions or personal preference.

Maybe if gay activist such as yourself would drop your European/western bully mentality, trying to force us to accept what goes against our beliefs and cultures then may be ,just maybe we can have an honest and frank discussion about your plight , calling people names and borrowing from western approaches will get you nowhere. Don’t jump the gun go back and rethink your strategy and when you have come up with a workable formula come back and I will still explain to you why we can not accept or condone homosexuality

WM said...

@girl next door: I’ve always found that airing issues preferable to pretending that they don’t exist. However, for some reason our collective ethos is uncomfortable talking about sex—a state of affairs that we cannot afford to prolong in the context of STDs and teenage pregnancies, amongst other issues.
@kenyananalyst: Well, I hardly think many Christians would agree that the Bible promotes or even tolerates prostitution, but my reading of it has always been captured by the story of Jesus at the well, where he accepted water from a woman of, shall we say, suspect morality. If the new testament has anything generalisable about it, it is tolerance, tolerance, tolerance. Tolerance and generosity for the less priveledged, the least accepted, the shunned and the despised. Love (positive love, which involves doing, as well as feeling) and acceptance for all those who share our reality with us. That’s what I get out of it. What do you get? I should add here that this emerges for me from a study of the Quaran and the Torah too.
@Ms. K. I’m not sure that homosexuality is a “belief”—do you honestly think anyone would CHOOSE to assume an identity or a set of practices that causes them to be shunned, makes them targets of violence, causes their families to disown them and leaves them open to abuse and intolerance? One might as well say that one thinks blackness as a belief is wrong, and those who choose to be black deserve all the racism that comes their way.
@kenyanalyst: we’ll just start a mutual admiration society…
@frank leon Roberts: you are welcome, and I did try to post it again, I’m not sure if I was successful. I think homophobia is a problem that straight people have, and have to sort out: it is one of those tragic ironies that the victims are forced to be the problem-solvers also.
@ anon. Thank you. I’m sure the numbers of people out there whose sexual experiences have not confined themselves to heterosexuality is much larger than anyone suspects. They too, have been silenced and repressed, and possibly made to feel guilty about the widening the scope of their sexual identities, which can only be a pity really. Possibly they are the ones who feel obligated to be loudest in their homophobia, lest the whiff os suspicion attach itself to them.
@the rant: I don’t quite get the reference to animals, although I am sure it was not complimentary. However, now that you raise it, to those who say that homosexuality is “un-natural” I might refer you to the numerous scientific studies which have found homosexuality amongst other species, which tends to kill that argument. Evidently, God didn’t intend sex to be for the purpose of reproduction only, after all. It seems weird to me to ascribe either morality or immorality to species other than humans, because it would not seem to apply in any logical fashion. Having said all this—unless I mistook biology 101, humans ARE animals, so it is hardly insulting to label us such.
@ anonymous #2. Heloooooo back! I’m from the school of thought that thinks questions are more important than answers: questions allow debates, stimulate thoughts and in the end, allow several possibilities of the “right answers” to emerge. I am not a politician, thank god, I am a person whose job it is to ask questions and to challenge the status quo, pace Benda. It always seems to me that THE answer, if such exists, depends upon people first asking the correct question, which is not as simple as it may at first seem.
@shiroh: when you say “right” what do you mean? I do not think it is a matter of right or wrong, it is a matter of “rights.” I mean this in the sense that there are many right ways to be, and also that we have rights, all of us, when it comes to the matter of expressing our
various sexualities.
@double WM: hi, you! Glad to have you back.
@guess: I hear you
@the binj: right back at you, bro!
@done: I think your argument is a little straw-mannish. You will note the emphasis I put on mutual informed (--and adult) consent and lack of harm to oneself or to others in the matter of sexual practice. That would hardly carry in the matter of murder, as it is difficult to imagine murder victims who agree to be murdered….. this is the sort of smokescreen argument that obscures the real issues at hand, and those, I maintain, are fundamentally about the inalienable right to person-hood and to sovereignty over one’s own body and being.
@acolyte: well, lots of accepted social norms in Africa keep me up at night. Misogyny… child brides ….. wife beating …… alcoholism …… being African of whatever provenance and of whatever “traditional” status doesn’t make anything automatically good or just or right.
@kenyanmusing—well, yeah!
@anon#3: I’m not sure what my “female” take amounts to. I merely note that women are by and large, more tolerant, which I imagine comes from a certain empathetic understanding of what it feels like to be considered inferior merely because of what you are.
---to be continued….

Anonymous said...

Joe wrote:
"Infact for example for a long time now I have enjoyed having discussions with keguro on rugby and other topics even though he is gay."

That is a good thing. You may even mistake this gracious willingness of yours for tolerance. And it is also good that there are more such people. In fact, I am sure that if you live in the Global North, you may have a number of nice white colleagues who occasionally talk with you about American football, politics, global warming and music - even though you are a nigger.

Got it now?

Anonymous

Joseph Walking said...

lol now i have become a nigger lol aiight if it suits you then i agreee with you ,will you be sending me a rainbow flag to fly outside my house too.
ps your remarks do not deserve the foolishness i was going to lay on you . be blessed and may GOD judge between us

Anonymous said...

Here is a nice line which I found in rather different (and rather predominantly heterosexual) web forum:

"Gay people don't bother me. It's the guys that rant and rave about homos that I keep my eye on. They seem to protest too much."

Anonymous said...

Hi! This is WM or Mad Kenyan Woman, howsoever you are most comfortable with me. I have recently received a comment by someone whose mind I admire greatly, but I am not sure that he wants or needs to be identified, which is why I have logged on under "anon." Thus, the following is not my writing or thinking, but that of my excellently complexly thinking and widely-read friend. Forgive the slight deception/disguise.

"The wonderful heat and volume of this post and the comments! But, my oh my, there is yet another aspect of homophobia among straight men. Yes, as has been suggested by a number of folks, it could be because some are curious or even in the closet or that they are blindly manipulated by the bible wielding hordes on the 'right'. But I believe there is a reason that lies closer to the conception of male friendship among straights, the male group and the impact of 'out' male-to-male sexuality on them. Men in friendships in my experience, contrary to the stereotype, are highly intimate and emotionally committed. What is less commented on and that I only recognised intuitively back in the day is that male friendship seems to carry an inexorable pressure to form a group even when it involves a single pair of men. The thing you call friendship is a space filled with myth and imagination, and which you both build carefully over many beers and ball games. It is more (or less) than a relationship between two separate individuals. I can’t represent it pictorially but it would probably look like this: Friend X – Friendship: our thing, how we are, what we believe, women, what we do, who we hate, who we like, our project, sex – Friend Y. That middle part is what you build and protect – and I suspect, nay I know, that this middle part is crucially anchored in gaining the approval and sexual notice of women. It takes on a mythical aspect and you eventually address yourself to it more than to the other member(s) of the friendship. The sudden realisation that a buddy is gay or engages in homosexual sex throws much of the myths of the middle part in great doubt. It adds a webbing of emotion and asks for commitment that had hitherto not been spoken for; it requires a huge recalibration or rebuilding of that thing between you and how it looks outward at the world, especially the world of women. I think many straights fear homosexuality not necessarily because they are self-denying gays, but because it threatens the myths of friendship which are all very particular and unique in their construction. You fear that your (gay) buddy is less interested in your friendship than he is in seeking a kind of commitment that is wildly out of place in what you consider the thing you have built."

I found that rather thought provoking--I hope you did too.--W.M.

WM said...

Without prejudicing the continuation of my responses to all the commentators on this blog, I feel compelled to ask my anon (above) whose mind is a thing of beauty, how he --yeah, he's male, obviously--reconciles these ideas to female homosexuality or pansexuality. What is it about our ides of friendship? What is it about our myth and imagination? What is it about our own imaginary of ourselves that might be in a dynamic conversation with the points that you make??? I've brought you up better, nani! think @the differences of being and the points of conflict of being!!

MMK said...

WM - I feel unable to helpfully comment on the matter of female homosexuality and pansexuality. Is the latter a bit like pan-africanism? I used to think I knew the pans until they recently confused me deeply and so we are not seeing each other anymore. Taking a break to date other concepts.

It strikes me that sex and friendship are just noisy, blood-strewn battlegrounds. There are those knocking on the door demanding or politely asking to be let in while others are busy shutting the door, and all because of the sentiments that all communities and acts must be accorded equal recognition and respect by all other communities and actors. And then there are those who would hold to the illusion that their game is the only one in town and that all the rest must be relegated to the corner where they can shut up and not interrupt the obviously very (ecstatic?) party that is heterosexuality. But both miss that at the core of friendship is virtue, an ideal, and that indeed it comes in different forms with sex as only a single aspect; it must be aspired to and not seized on horseback with a swing of the mace. There is eros, the intense desire that can be physical but that Plato considered to be a love for a kind of perfect beauty that you seek in others and in the world but is really unreachable since it is ideal. Thus eros or let us just say shagging only takes you part of the way there, and in fact too much of it and too much attention to it blinds you to the 'true' beauty of the world. Then there is loyalty and love for one's polis or profession or family or whatever grouping. But while this friendship appears to face outward at a group, its highest expression is in love for oneself provided you are a person of virtue since this means that you will love what is good and this will lead to laudable actions that benefit others. A bad dude according to dear aristo must not love themselves since they will then love what is corrupted. The basis of love for the polis is in cultivating personal virtue is the conclusion of the bearded one. Then finally there is the love of god. It allows for a love that goes beyond particularities and does not need to be given in return; a love of the world and of life, of that within us that goes beyond flesh. In all of them, a standard of moral excellence must be obtained and developed. But this word morality nowadays seems to be the sole province of the 'right' and the sexuality we have been discussing has been relentlessly focused on thighs and buttocks and dicks.

Ngai mwathani, why am I writing these things first just because last program on TV has ended? Really, honestly from this very high horse that is about to throw me and break my neck, I am amazed that such a contentious discussion can be held without any mention of what is beautiful about our friendships and our desires. It is claim and counter claim: this person is insecure, that one insensitive and yet another hypocritical. On my part, I enjoy a kind of vigorous, rude male friendship that has a kind of aggressive posture toward the world and a great deal of tenderness within it - its idiom is very 'straight' and I think of it as a legacy type since I grew up with it from the earliest age. It is only one of the kinds of friendships that I have and it is difficult for a woman or a gay man or a pan sexual to partake of it. But is only one kind of friendship that I have since I share others that are equally rewarding and committed with women and gay men. I am not sure about pansexuals though I must say. For any number of reasons, these friendships sometimes do not mix well, and I do not think that they have to. Much of the fighting about sexuality is because there are people trying to defend one of their types of friendship from that they consider to be an assault.

Anonymous said...

The "beers and ball games" is culturally dependent, and perchance repugnant to me. But the idea that the male friendship has a vector towards social group building is interesting. Might well be true.

And it is quite true also that the male-male friendship often is built on and around "issues" and "topics", like a coral reef. Many womenfolk build friendship *between* (i.e. individua); men build friendship *on* (i.e. common interests, passions).

The last idea however (reasons for homophobia) I did not find convincing. Elegantly contrived, yes. A bit wrought, probably. Like wrought iron.

Anonymous

Joseph Walking said...

Why are all this people posting anonymous ,if this lifestyle is so pure and natural why not post your name and stand by what you say. youhave compared the civil rights movement to the figt for gay rights but i havent come across any anonymous civil rights activist.we realy need to put this foolish campaign to rest .


ps. i also have a question isf any of you can answer this ,why is it that in a gay couple someone acts like the opposite sex . if its two men one acts like a woman if its two women ,one wowman acts even more manly that some men, if being gay is natural why does one party act like the sex they are not ie. why not two manly men or two feminin women . can anyone answer that . why does one party act and have characteristics that are not their sex . can abody answer that. and can you just come out of this anonymous closet. have some spine .if you cant stand up for what you believe how do you expect to convince others. this are the people spreading diiseases because the live a deceptive life

Joseph Walking said...

Why are all this people posting anonymously, if this lifestyle is so pure and natural why not post your name and stand by what you say? You have compared the civil rights movement to the fight for gay rights but I haven’t come across any anonymous civil rights activist. We really need to put this foolish campaign to rest.


Ps. I also have a question if any of you can answer this, why is it that in a gay couples someone acts like the opposite sex. if its two men one acts like a woman if its two women ,one woman acts even more manly that some men, if being gay is natural why does one party act like the sex they are not i.e. why not two manly men or two feminine women . Can anyone answer that? Why does one party act and have characteristics that are not their sex. Can anybody answer that? And can you just come out of this anonymous closet. Have some spine .if you can’t stand up for what you believe how do you expect to convince others. This are the people spreading diseases because the live a deceptive life

BlueSwift said...

Well, such a controversial issue. Anyway I had a debate elsewhere on the same issue and was painted homophobic since i hate the homosexual lifestyle (the dictionary definition). I however dont hate the homosexuals, I think they should be helped. My take is that its quite unnatural, if it were then it would be manifest in any other mammal or animal for that matter.

Mylifesucks said...

At the tender age of 17, at the time when I believed I knew everything in the world that needed to be known, I was very confident and I strongly believed that homo's, as I used to call that segment of society, was evil incarnate. But fortunately I went to Uni' and did a little growing up since then, and like some of us who are lucky enough to evolve came to realize the fallacy in the evil incarnate concept. It was during my sojourn in the colorful US, when the idiot was up for re-election that I actually took a bit of a closer look at homosexuality, the hidden or latent homosexual feelings that most men are supposed to have hidden and surpressed where simply "I wish I had his abs" kind of thing. The fear that a gay guy will try to seduce me... well it hasn't happened yet but it would mean I am keeping my ish right. But before this gets to long, I guess my main point is we have been socially programmed to hate gay people, and a lot of people can not unprogramme themselves. I will be the first to admit I may not have totally over come my programming, but the acid test will be what will I do if a gay guy rocks up and lays his game on me.

Kenyananalyst said...

Hi WM, I'm having to travel in the nxt 4 hrs, so won't "politick" much :-); but I'll say Christ and Christianity have both opened themselves to a variety of interpretations, understandings, celebrations, distortions and even rejection. Christ's attitude towards women was revolutionary, to say the least, yet at the same time faithful in its commitment to His vicarious and redemptive mission on earth. Leading theologian John Stott does, in large part, respond to your concerns in this excellent presentation he gave at the University of Illinois in late 2003. http://kenyananalyst.blogspot.com/2006/04/radical-christianity.html

Mkenya Mdadisi said...

This is the correct wording of the link to the piece on the Christian side of things to this debate: http://kenyananalyst.blogspot.com/2006/04/radical-christianity.html

Anonymous said...

Kenyananalyst:
You might wish to check out [b]Sibylle Ngo Nyeck[/b] for an outstanding example of a Christian (Anglican) writer on GLB issues. She is worth it. One of my sheroes.

Anonymous

Gay Nairobi Man said...

I may be jumping into this so late, but man what a clash of thoughts!

Ask yourselves one question? If being gay is a choice, with all the hate, bigotry, societal and african family issues, why would we choose to be gay in Kenya??

I have faced so many walls especially on career in my 33 years
because of my sexuality. I have even tried dating a girl( to cure my feelings for men) and that did not work. I have tried religion and counselling. I have had a friend commit suicide coz they could not deal with their sexuality issues.

I lived a life of fear especially of discovery until I decided on partial outing i.e on a need to know basis starting with my mother.

Now am living a more free life and am quite happy. Granted there are challenges but I have learnt to hide in the open and when one discovers that I am, I deal with it then.

Its a pity that one would choose to judge us solely on sexuality.

A kenyan man, son , brother cousin , friend, businessman, but gay

Anonymous said...

Gay Nairobi Man: I have browsed through your blog, and am glad it exists. Thanks for enriching our virtual space, thanks for being out. We need more voices like you, and we also need more audible voices from Kenyan bi and lebiaan womyn, whom one does hardly ever hear until now, so afraid are most.

Not all in South Africa is peachy, but in this respect, it's a shining example for all of Africa.

WM said...

@anon--I appreciate (none more than I) your particular brand of sarcasm. However, in this particular instance, I think the ad hominem attack on Joe just leads to an easy deflection. I get your point and no doubt so does he, but you see all he had to do was latch on to nigger and the whole issue is displaced. I'm thinking strategic and tactical value here, but on the other hand, why on earth would we have to be thinking about this all the time? I think I'm wrong here. So you go, as the spirit moves you!
@joe. Okay, I see the point of your disagreement, but you may want to think deeper about the substantive issues raised, namely, that "tolerance" based on a refusal to see the totality of ourselves, which includes our sexuality amongst other things, is a sort of amputation, and is no favour to anyone...
@anon (again?) I think I would agree that the centrality of negative discourse on homosexuality is itself suggestive. After all, no one is asking these guys to go out with other guys or anything, so why go on and on about it?
@MMK I have so much to say back to you that I think I'll just wait for your book to come out, then I can publish my review.
@blueswift--welcome to my blog. I"m glad to meet you. When you say that you hate the lifestyle but not the people, what do you mean. And in what sense is it un-natural or against nature? First of all, I would imagine that nature is not fixed, since we too are part of nature and hence cannot be not-nature. Secondly, different sexual orientations have been observed amongst other species as well, so if that was the nature you were refering to, that's an argument that has been overtaken by events. Finally, whether with or against nature, human beings have the capacity to re-invent and to re-imagine ourselves (emailing is "natural?" blogs are?) and the only constraints are those of fear and prejudice. I'm not asking anyone to CHANGE their sexual orientation, I ask only that the humanity of those with orientations different from others be acknowledged and their right to exist affirmed. That's all. It really doesn't seem that large a matter or request to me.
@mylifesucks (does it really?I'm sorry, can I help?) yup! it's a matter of social conditioning, but that also means that we can un-condition ourselves, through learning and interacting and seing people as equal beings frist, before we go on about gender and race and class and sexuality and fashion sense and etc.
@kenyananlyst, nkenya mdadisi, and the other anon--thank you for this information. Everyone, please go to these sites to read what they have to say. No information is ever wasted. Analyst, travel safe.
@gay nairobi man. Thank you for sharing what are probaly fairly painful and personal issues--I think it takes a great deal of courage, and in fact, I really haven't been able to do that myself: perhaps one day I will, inspired by you. I"m glad you've found your own balance and your space of peace. I take comfort from the popularity of "Gukira" the blog, written by an openly gay Kenyan man, which has been nominated for just about every kaybee award possible. We may not be running towards tolerance, but we are walking at an almost acceptable pace.
@The last anonymous: yes, I wish we could just copy that whole bit from the South African constitution......
At everyone, thank you so much for your patience, your capacity to listen to other points of view, your willingness to learn, your insistence on civility and most of all, your engagement. I have been truly humbled as well as educated by this experience. As long as all of you exist, hope springs eternal.
I am not a naive optimist--actually I am rather cynical, but it is difficult to maintain that stance when I have so much evidence of committed, thinking, reasoning and eloquent interlocuters.
Again, my thanks.

WM said...

One more thing, for Joe. I forgot to answer your question. This is only my answer and not generaliseable to what wiser minds might come up with. The question you raise is, I think, one of "performativity," i.e. the idea that there is a certain way that women are supposed to act, in which resides their feminity, and other ways in which men are supposed to act, in which resides their masculinity. So we wear dresses and pretend that we have to be persuaded to have sex and that we all like the colour pink, etc., whilst you guys have to swear off tears, impress us with shows of physical strength and acts of supposed bravery, and above all, expend as much energy as possible in search of sexual conquests of us. And so boringly on. As a woman who lacks many of the attributes of "femininity" and actively avoids others, who enjoys hanging out with guys and even doing what are commonly supposed to be "manly" things for no other reason than that I enjoy them, I find the whole stereotyping of gender identity an intolerable burden. Having said that, in the interests of full confession, let me add the following. When people act in a manner that is commonly associated with a sex (NOT gender) not their own, there are several things going on. One is the pointing out of the fundamental falsity of these assigned identities--after all, if manliness excludes wearing dresses, for a man to wear a dress is a direct contradiction of the "inevitability" or even the "naturalness" of the proposition. Secondly, some of the things that are said to be "acting female" if done by men or the other way around are nothing of the sort--to keep with the dress example, the way a man wears a dress, the implications and enjoyment of it, the style of it, etc., are quite different from the way in which a hypothetically "average" woman would--so that is an insistence on a third,-- or fourth, or fifth and so on infinitely--of the meaning of dress wearing, which leads us to be able to speak of the multiplicy of genders and of subjectivity and self-expression. Finally for now, I think we must remember that gay people are first and foremost people: the urge to live in ways that identify themselves with the hypothetical "normal" is no less strong in them than it would be in a randomly selected segment of a hetero population. So, since the fiction we have built into a prison for ourselves is that a loving couple consists of one partner doing x things whilst the other does y things, that too is part of the contradiction that many gay people have to navigate according to their predilections and their purposes. I think it is rather like being left-handed... in the days when it was considered a sign of some innate failing and even of evil, there seemed no limit to the cruelty that we could impose on left-handed people to "cure" them, and is it then surprising that many left handed people did everything withing their power to act as right handed as possible? Sexual orientation carries much harsher social sanctions, punishments and exclusionary practices than does the matter of being left handed. As someone mentioned above, do we honestly believe that anyone would "choose" to submit himself or herself to the violent (up to and including death)punishments that are daily handed out to them for being themselves? My whole knowledge of Christianity, which has been professed by several of my interlocuters, is reducible to the limitless possibilities of compassion, of kindness, of respect, of empathy (jesus with the lepers, with the thieves on the cross, the story of the samaritan, etc.) and ultimately of the quality of imagining oneself as another, fully imagining it, so that one feels their pains, their sorrows, their hardships, their triumphs and their joys as deeply and as sincerely as one feels one's own. That's what I think about it.
On the question of being anonymous, I'm not a real fan of it, as you know. However, I really only strongly object to it when people use it to commit acts of violence, whether physical, mental or virtual.

Anonymous said...

It bears only a faint link to the topic of WM's posting, but some link still. After all, her posting is about human rights.

The national press presently sees a unparalleled propaganda campaign for a so-called "Sexual Offences Bill". That is a draft which still condones marital rape (yes, it does *not* punish it, and not out of inadvertance, but because a former clause that would have made it a punishable offence for the first time in Kenyan legal history, was explicitly and intentionally struck out later).

And it still heavily penalizes loving consensual relationships between gay and lesbian Kenyans (that includes bis, of course).

But to make up for this, it criminalizes *all* (repeat: all) heterosexual consensual sex between Kenyan youngsters and teenagers with 15 years(!) minimum imprisonment. That's what none of the media articles tells you about. How low can barbary sink?

Anonymous said...

" It was during my sojourn in the colorful US, when the idiot was up for re-election "

LOL! Thanks for the sympathy. It's nice to see such comments outside the US, a reality check showing us US residents that yes indeedy, things are nuts here.

NancyP

Anonymous said...

I wish that all African governments/legislatures were as progressive as our brothers and sisters in the Republic of South Africa are. The only country in Africa (world?) that has the rights of all sexual orientations enshrined in its constitution. You may be straight, gay, or bi; homophobic or homophilic, or neutered...the point is, live and let live. By putting gender protection in their constitution, SA has shown that they have a thing or two to teach all the Western countries who are so quick to condemn Africa as the Dark Continent while keeping up their own dark and primitive traditions.

Oh, and I am happy, as a Nigerian male, to see African women on the Internet, and contributing to the blogosphere. Keep it up.

-- Jimoh Alabi, Lagos, Nigeria

WM said...

Ano, Jimoh, Nancy, Karibu sana (Welcome!) to my house. And thank you for your invaluable comments.

Anonymous said...

Interesting Blog for the first one i've actually read through!!

In my opion, the biggest hurdle that we have to overcome is the one of seeing through the act and only seeing the person. Homosexuality clearly leaves a bad taste in people's mouth for
whatever reason... but why transfer the hatered for act to the people doing it? Since the act clearly is between two people and has whatsoever nothing to do with you? Maybe its becase the haters are deep within themselves fighting that very thing....

Texter said...

Just found your blog when looking for Kenyan writer B. Wainaina. Now read this post. Really enjoying reading your thoughts. Thank much, peace, Texter